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#7351 Jared

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 07:42 PM

It's just a limitation of the tileset is all. Not a huge deal in my opinion.



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Posted 19 April 2017 - 08:04 PM

Meh, never noticed that error until you guys mentioned it. :P Still, it's a minor thing that GB design can still live with. BTW, pleasant shot Jared, nice and clean. :)


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#7353 Polaris

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Posted 19 April 2017 - 10:25 PM

I personally don't see anything wrong. GB mountains aren't perfect, but they're simplistic. Having tried to "correct" the perspective issue... it's not worth it. It just makes screen designing and walkability a bit needlessly complicated.

 

That said I love the screen. It's a bit monochromatic. I would suggest different colours for the rails, and maybe a pond of water or better yet, different shade of brown for the mountains! But you nailed the layout so hard!


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#7354 Demonlink

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:16 PM

What I love about the GB set is that it's very diverse in how you can use the set. By this, with a bit of tinkering, you can use interior tiles in outside areas, and vice versa, something that's hard to pull off in other sets like Pure, DoR, and similar, mostly due to how many colors are used by each object and the palette structure itself.

 

What I'm working on lacks caves. Taking in mind the above, and after an hour more or less on creating a palette (again), I came up with this:

 

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I dunno why, but I'm pretty proud of it. The palette was based off of some shots I've seen from Lunaria's Secret Side Project and Ebola Zaire's (cancelled?) Setraline. But then again, I tried to make the palette fit with a MIDI I'm using for cave areas. I think I nailed it pretty nicely. Thoughts?

 

Credits to Shane/Polaris for his sexy cave tiles by the way. :)


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#7355 Jared

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:00 PM

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For some reason, the shade of the trees is yellow-ish in game, but gray/black in ZQ, even after rebuilding the transparency table. Not a big deal, but just wondering if anyone else experienced it too. :)


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#7356 MarinaraSauce

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:09 PM

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For some reason, the shade of the trees is yellow-ish in game, but gray/black in ZQ, even after rebuilding the transparency table. Not a big deal, but just wondering if anyone else experienced it too. :)

Do you have the screen and the Dmap set to the same palette? Looks good btw.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:51 PM

I do! That's why I was confused.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:12 AM

Yeah, I hate how ZC does transparency. If you don't mind redrawing some tiles, you can work around it fairly well.

 

Just make a duplicate of each shading tile, and erase pixels on it like a checkerboard. On the second version of the tile, erase the pixels that you left alone on the first version, so you have two alternating "checkerboards".

 

Make your combos all two-frame animations that run as rapidly as possible. This should create an optical illusion that will give you a pretty decent transparency effect, and you can even combine it with ZC's built-in layer transparency to get yet another effect that can look good. It works amazingly for mist and fog, but it should work well with shade. It's a technique that they used to use in the classic Sonic games to pull off effects like water transparency for the rippling surface.

 

The only thing to keep in mind is that it'll wreak havoc on YouTube videos of your quest. If I recall correctly, when the effect is used in ZC, it alternates frames at around 60 FPS. By default, most people will record YouTube videos at 30 FPS. This means that they'll only catch a single frame out of the animation. It's easy to deal with, though. Just place a note in the quest description that people recording will need to do so at 60 FPS.


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Posted 23 April 2017 - 08:34 PM

What I love about the GB set is that it's very diverse in how you can use the set. By this, with a bit of tinkering, you can use interior tiles in outside areas, and vice versa, something that's hard to pull off in other sets like Pure, DoR, and similar, mostly due to how many colors are used by each object and the palette structure itself.

 

What I'm working on lacks caves. Taking in mind the above, and after an hour more or less on creating a palette (again), I came up with this:

 

Prw7Ztk.png

 

I dunno why, but I'm pretty proud of it. The palette was based off of some shots I've seen from Lunaria's Secret Side Project and Ebola Zaire's (cancelled?) Setraline. But then again, I tried to make the palette fit with a MIDI I'm using for cave areas. I think I nailed it pretty nicely. Thoughts?

 

Credits to Shane/Polaris for his sexy cave tiles by the way. :)

 

Very gorgeous! Did you get those cave top borders from Shane as well?


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 05:06 AM

What I love about the GB set is that it's very diverse in how you can use the set. By this, with a bit of tinkering, you can use interior tiles in outside areas, and vice versa, something that's hard to pull off in other sets like Pure, DoR, and similar, mostly due to how many colors are used by each object and the palette structure itself.

 

What I'm working on lacks caves. Taking in mind the above, and after an hour more or less on creating a palette (again), I came up with this:

 

Prw7Ztk.png

 

I dunno why, but I'm pretty proud of it. The palette was based off of some shots I've seen from Lunaria's Secret Side Project and Ebola Zaire's (cancelled?) Setraline. But then again, I tried to make the palette fit with a MIDI I'm using for cave areas. I think I nailed it pretty nicely. Thoughts?

 

Credits to Shane/Polaris for his sexy cave tiles by the way. :)

I don't argue that it looks nice, but I would go ahead and argue that it looks like a cave much at all. It uses many overworld tiles and that kind of makes it look very little like an actual cave.


As for Jared's screen: I like it, very forest-y.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:28 PM

Very gorgeous! Did you get those cave top borders from Shane as well?

Yep! Ripped them from his Sanctuary Tree set. :)

 

I don't argue that it looks nice, but I would go ahead and argue that it looks like a cave much at all. It uses many overworld tiles and that kind of makes it look very little like an actual cave.

Actually, that was the intention. Since making a cave look interesting is kinda tedious to pull off using only interior tiles, I decided to just combine outside elements as well. This, with the idea that caves usually have some ponds, grass/plants and such. :) Besides, EZGBZ is good for trying various combinations.


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Posted 24 April 2017 - 03:33 PM

I decided to work on a project and got some progress good down. I decided I'm going to show teasers infrequently as opposed to just outright giving PureZC an info blackout with what I'm up to. This project isn't fully set in stone (story and gameplay ideas are still in shambles) but this has been worked on for a while now so we'll see where this goes I guess.

 

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Posted 25 April 2017 - 11:35 AM

I decided to work on a project and got some progress good down. I decided I'm going to show teasers infrequently as opposed to just outright giving PureZC an info blackout with what I'm up to. This project isn't fully set in stone (story and gameplay ideas are still in shambles) but this has been worked on for a while now so we'll see where this goes I guess.

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I think you've solidified your place as best city designer. I'm never disappointed with the urban shots you release.
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