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#1 Timelord

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:30 PM

For those of you who are so addicted to ZC, that you crave it on your mobile, there may be a viable path to this. Clearly, I have yet to test it, but I may give it a try next month. The impatient among you, may wish to read this article:

http://www.linux-mag...Device-to-Linux
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#2 judasrising

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 11:35 PM

For those of you who are so addicted to ZC, that you crave it on your mobile, there may be a viable path to this. Clearly, I have yet to test it, but I may give it a try next month. The impatient among you, may wish to read this article:

http://www.linux-mag...Device-to-Linux

Great stuff i am also gonna test is since i work with selfphones all day long.



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 04:06 AM

Great stuff i am also gonna test is since i work with selfphones all day long.

Brilliant. Please report on the device brand, model, and specs; what distro you try, and the general performance of ZC (Linux x32).

I'm going to suspect that ZC may be problematic on mobile distros, and they may require adding deps.

I have a few Samsung T699 units in the drawer that need displays, so I may try a distro on one of them, but I doubt they are sufficiently powerful to run it decently. It's a shame, as they are one of the most powerful devices with a sliding keyboard, and ZC will need a KB, or a Joustick as an input device. I simply cannot imagine trying to control a quest with an on-screen', virtual keyboard.

I can't even manage to use those for simplistic input.

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Ping. This may also be something that you'd have a fair amount of freedom to try; eh?

Edited by ZoriaRPG, 18 June 2016 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 04:22 AM

I have several selfphones aswell and i use bluetooth keyboard when i write.



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Posted 18 June 2016 - 06:43 AM

I have several selfphones aswell and i use bluetooth keyboard when i write.


Fair enough. Let me know how this turns out.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:57 PM

Wouldn't we need ARM binaries of ZC, though?

 

As far as I'm aware, ZC is only distributed as x86 binaries, so you couldn't run it directly on an ARM machine without any emulation. (Unless, of course, I've missed something.)

 

You could probably run the DOS versions of 2.10 and earlier in DOSBox, but performance would depend on the device.


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Posted 19 June 2016 - 02:28 AM

Wouldn't we need ARM binaries of ZC, though?

As far as I'm aware, ZC is only distributed as x86 binaries, so you couldn't run it directly on an ARM machine without any emulation. (Unless, of course, I've missed something.)

You could probably run the DOS versions of 2.10 and earlier in DOSBox, but performance would depend on the device.


In theory, and I stress theory, it would be possible to run the zc makefile on one of the distros. I'm unsure how Allegro 4 would run, if at all, but it may compile, and work on ARM architecture. There really isn't much datum that I've seen in relation to compiling ag4 on ARM, primarily because everyone in the Allegro community want people to shift to ag5.

I'll see what I can dig up, and perhaps in the process of migration to ag 4.4, we'll try out getting an ARM build to work.

Some smartphones use Intel architecture that should be able to run x86 bins though. I hadn't given enough thought to whether these distros are capable of executing standard debian bins, or if they exist both for ARM, and for Intel devices. I primarily did a cursory inspection, to see what distros exist, and slated testing it for autumn; unless I found other people willing to lend a hand befor then.

(At present, I'm working on the parser, and some misc zc functions that could be pretty useful for the next version, and splitting my attention in yet another direction, would delay more important things.)

Note also, that I specified testing with Linux x32 (x86 32-bit), although the binaries should run on x64... I also said it was a 'path to' running ZC on a mobile device, but not that it wouldn't require effort. :D

I believe there are distros for Intel-based smartphone devices; but I would be curious if the bin can run on ARM Linux builds. Doubtful, I know.

I won't even bother with DOSBox though: Trying to do anything useful with zc on a mobile device, and running 1.92 on DOSBox are fairly mutually-exclusive concepts. It's more interesting to find a way to make people happy, and run 2.5x, so that the modern quests are available to them, hence the tags on this topic. :)

Edited by ZoriaRPG, 19 June 2016 - 03:48 AM.

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Posted 19 June 2016 - 05:56 PM

Samsung Galaxy S6 here. yes plz



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Posted 22 June 2016 - 06:51 PM

There are Windows emulators too, could something like that potentially run ZC on a mobile?
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Posted 24 June 2016 - 01:58 AM

There are Windows emulators too, could something like that potentially run ZC on a mobile?

 

The problem with this would be performance, especially on an ARM device.

 

I'd actually forgotten about a few of the Intel-powered phones out there, they're sadly few and far between. I don't see why there'd be a problem running the Linux build on those phones! (But I don't have an x86 phone to test it on, unfortunately - just some x86 Windows tablets, so)


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Posted 26 June 2016 - 04:48 PM

performance aside, Zquest would still be usable in the windows solution even if ZC isn't right?



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Posted 03 October 2016 - 08:42 PM

There are some tablets that can run Windows 7/8.1. Could ZC work like that? I have some extra cash to burn so I was looking into this again. :heh:

If not, I'm buying a second 3ds to mod.

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Posted 24 November 2016 - 03:23 PM

There are some tablets that can run Windows 7/8.1. Could ZC work like that? I have some extra cash to burn so I was looking into this again. :heh:

If not, I'm buying a second 3ds to mod.

I've tried ZC with a touchscreen PC and... well... You have to double-tap pretty much everything... So I recommend either optimizing Zelda Classic, or just starting fresh.




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