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[Koh]

Inspired by this sit down with Zoltan Istvan on The Rubin Report

 

Part 1:  https://www.youtube....h?v=GDAjxuHBi84

Part 2:  https://www.youtube....h?v=t7aEWzlqhY4

Part 3:  https://www.youtube....h?v=eWLrQ3RXW6E

 

What is transhumanism?

 

So of course the first question would be what do you think about this discussion, but also, what do you think about the role of technology in biology and our future as a species, but also the potential societal impact it'll have.  Do you think Istvan hits some points that could be concerning, like the aristocracy being the first to have access to such life changing things, and leaving everyone else behind as a species?  Do you think the pros would outweigh the cons, and we'll figure out issues as they come up?

Edited by Koh, 06 October 2016 - 04:03 PM.

[Deedee]

 

Inspired by this sit down with Zoltan Istvan on The Rubin Report

 

Part 1:  https://www.youtube....h?v=GDAjxuHBi84

Part 2:  https://www.youtube....h?v=t7aEWzlqhY4

Part 3:  https://www.youtube....h?v=eWLrQ3RXW6E

 

What is transhumanism?

 

So of course the first question would be what do you think about this discussion, but also, what do you think about the role of technology in biology and our future as a species, but also the potential societal impact it'll have.  Do you think Istvan hits some points that could be concerning, like the aristocracy being the first to have access to such life changing things, and leaving everyone else behind as a species?  Do you think the pros would outweigh the cons, and we'll figure out issues as they come up?

 

 

By transhumanism, do we mean fusing with technology, or using genes from animals and even artificially created genes to improve ourselves and change our bodily makeup?

[Koh]

I think both would fall into it, because it all involves genetic modification and enhancement through technology and science.

[Deedee]

I approve mostly of the latter. Fusing with technology... that can end up horribly. Changing our genetic makeup to improve our species biologically? That can do wonders.

As for AI, I think that as long as they have morals like humans and have no real power (like nukes), I'm okay with it.

[Mani Kanina]

We already live in the age of transhumanism. By any definition a person with a pacemaker operated in is a cyborg, for example. Not that people think about it like that, because it's not flashy.

Edited by Lunaria, 06 October 2016 - 04:29 PM.

[cavthena]

Trans-humanism with technology is the way its progressing now and I'm completely for it! It's already helping people today, my favorite are the bionic eyes. However just like anything humans do it'll have it's goods, it's bads, and the oddities. If trans-humanism is here to stay then I could see our future world being divided. The issue of trans-humanism, outside of prosthetic limbs/organs, may start out first as a religious sin before moving on to mainstream politics and daily life were governments and populations would debate on what kind of alterations are legal. I believe that the divide will be mostly between human naturalist and trans-humanist, following a similar path to how transgender is treated today.

 

I don't agree with altering genetics. Genetics can be rather unpredictable long term not to mention this hole genetics thing was already tried before and that's a dark time in human history. In the 1900s genetics was closely tied to the philosophy of eugenics. Both of these have been abused in human history time and time again, mostly as an excuse for the discrimination of specific populations. After the Nazi's used it to justify the purity of the Aryan race it fell out of the spot light. It's still researched today however. Cryonics, cloning, artificial insemination and abortion (to a degree) are all branches of this line of research. It's not hard to find just how much friction these projects caused and I view future projects to be even greater forms of social friction.

 

Between the two technology is probably safer, more reliable and not so permanent. Unlike technology, genetic alterations can't be simply "fixed".

[Koh]

I think some of the prospects it proposes to bring could be interesting.

 

I feel like I was blessed to have been born in the early 90s (1992), and being able to witness the evolution of technology over the decades.  It's amazing to think that 20 years ago, the Internet was barely a thing, and now, we're literally using computers to enhance and fix our bodies.  If you were to tell someone this stuff would happen 20 or 30 years ago, people would think you're absolutely Bonkers.

 

 

Not that Bonkers, though, that's the good kind of Bonkers.

 

I'm interested in seeing the next milestone in this department.  Even if some of the prospects can be scary, like the aristocracy possibly being the superhumans while the middle class and poor are regular humans.

[Dark Ice Dragon]

all this remembe to me Ephemerial Phantasia, whit the CANON clan that "bioenchange" themeself whit weird tecnology called "magic science" and was divided in 3 different class...but i'm going out of theme here...

Retuning on topic : I wish to have the immunitary system of a crocodile, genetic may reallybe  useful for cure people or..turn them into monsters