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[Russ]

Favorite will always be Sonic Adventure 2 because I'm a Shadow fanboy, but Sonic Adventure/DX is a REAAALLLY close second because the ending had me in tears. Not to mention Open Your Heart is my all time favorite Crush 40 song *waits for s***storm*

Have to agree on SA2, cuz it's awesome, but SA... not so much. When comparing it to all the others, it just falls short. I'll let it slip, seeing as it was Sega's first experiment with 3D Sonics, but it was just okay, really. And incredibly buggy. I've gone up loops and never come down before. It's entertaining, but not near as much so as some other games.

I actually rather enjoyed Shadow's individual game. It was a bit tedious for some of the missions, but it was also an awesome story.

I actually didn't care for the story so much as the way it was told. The story seemed to be a tack on of aliens to SA2's backstory, but the way it progresses, with all the different decisions and endings, is genius.

Sonic 06, ugh, I hated that. The Hub area felt weird, and the first Sonic level (which is all I played because it was so bad)

WHOA WHOA WHOA. Hold it right here. You can't judge a game based on it's first level. '06 really has it's awesome spots to it. For example.

Unleashed's day stages were good, but you need to go through like 3 night stages to actually get one more day stage, then it's back to night. The Werehog was just boring and not fun.

You oughta try the 360/PS3 version. Not only are the day stages much better, but the werehog is much more fun to play as. AND (the most important part), there's an even amount of levels. No more playing 4 werehog stages for 1 speed stage. It's one for one. And actually, there are more day stages that night (although the night take slightly longer, so the time balances out).

The only "modern" Sonic game Ive played is Sonic Heroes for the Game Cube. The music wasn't that good, the story was lame, the graphics were poor... And most importantly, the camera and controls seemed horribly broken to me. So there's that. I dunno about the other modern ones though.

I feel so sorry for you. Heroes is one of the worst modern Sonic games out there. Do yourself a favor, and pick up Sonic Adventure 2. Infinitely better.

[Fabbrizio]

Have to agree on SA2, cuz it's awesome, but SA... not so much. When comparing it to all the others, it just falls short. I'll let it slip, seeing as it was Sega's first experiment with 3D Sonics, but it was just okay, really. And incredibly buggy. I've gone up loops and never come down before. It's entertaining, but not near as much so as some other games.

Woah woah woah, hold your ponies horses. So now we're just going to pretend that Sonic Jam never happened?

[Avaro]

About Sonic 06, I really wish I would have ever played this. But I have only watched a playthrough on youtube. Looked like a good game. The story is incredible good! The time travel with chaos control is really awesome. This game should be a movie, not a game. Seriously, the final cutscenes, where sonic died and where Amy cried were beautiful (not the fact, that he died ;D).

Modern Sonics are not bad. I see no reason why someone can't like Sonic Colours. The only bad site is, that its too kiddy and sonic isn't cool enough in that game. That doesn't make the gameplay bad.

[Alestance]

The problems of Modern 2D Sonic Games summed up in one video

[Banjo7J]

WHOA WHOA WHOA. Hold it right here. You can't judge a game based on it's first level.

True, I suppose I can't, but judging by how bad I had heard it was and how bad what I had played was, I honestly couldn't be bothered giving it a full chance to see if it does get any better. Frankly, the Shadow and Silver stages didn't look that good, and the Sonic one I'd played wasn't exactly a good sign of things to come. And I highly, highly doubt I will ever give it another chance, as I just simply can't be bothered to plug in my PS3 to play through a game that got terrible reviews, and I have had unfun experiences with it.

You oughta try the 360/PS3 version. Not only are the day stages much better, but the werehog is much more fun to play as. AND (the most important part), there's an even amount of levels. No more playing 4 werehog stages for 1 speed stage. It's one for one. And actually, there are more day stages that night (although the night take slightly longer, so the time balances out).

Eh, I doubt I will. Again, I probably couldn't be bothered. I mean, the promise of day levels outumbering the more-fun-than-experienced night levels does sound good, but really, if I wanted Unleashed day stages (which I do), I'd just play Sonic Generations (which I will).

Edited by Banjo7J, 25 August 2011 - 11:29 AM.

[Russ]

Woah woah woah, hold your ponies horses. So now we're just going to pretend that Sonic Jam never happened?

Okay, admittedly, I forgot about that one. But still, they were still experimenting with 3D, really.

About Sonic 06, I really wish I would have ever played this. But I have only watched a playthrough on youtube. Looked like a good game. The story is incredible good! The time travel with chaos control is really awesome. This game should be a movie, not a game. Seriously, the final cutscenes, where sonic died and where Amy cried were beautiful (not the fact, that he died ;D).

Finally, somebody who agrees with me. Aside from the loading times (which were horrible), it is a good game. And the story, above all else, was incredibly. The part where Silver goes back ten years and witnesses the sealing of Iblis... that part through my brain for a loop.

Modern Sonics are not bad. I see no reason why someone can't like Sonic Colours. The only bad site is, that its too kiddy and sonic isn't cool enough in that game. That doesn't make the gameplay bad.

It's more than just being too kiddy. For starters, the game doesn't feel like Sonic most of the time. It's incredibly slow, too platforming based, and almost all 2D. The wisps were poorly implemented, and do nothing for the overall experience most of the time. And the controls are terrible. Sonic controls like a drunk race car, and really only works with high-speed sections. Trying to force him to platform is miserable. And the wisps... don't get me started on those controls.

True, I suppose I can't, but judging by how bad I had heard it was and how bad what I had played was, I honestly couldn't be bothered giving it a full chance to see if it does get any better. Frankly, the Shadow and Silver stages didn't look that good, and the Sonic one I'd played wasn't exactly a good sign of things to come. And I highly, highly doubt I will ever give it another chance, as I just simply can't be bothered to plug in my PS3 to play through a game that got terrible reviews, and I have had unfun experiences with it.

Meh, suit yourself, but it's good. Most of the Silver stages are pretty fun, and Shadow's are almost all good, with the exception of one bland stage and one that, admittedly, is garbage. But hey, the rest are good, at least.

Eh, I doubt I will. Again, I probably couldn't be bothered. I mean, the promise of day levels outumbering the more-fun-than-experienced night levels does sound good, but really, if I wanted Unleashed day stages (which I do), I'd just play Sonic Generations (which I will).

Once again, suit yourself, but you're missing out.

^ That ain't in Generations. Not to mention, the night stages are genuinely good.

[Fabbrizio]

Okay, admittedly, I forgot about that one. But still, they were still experimenting with 3D, really.

Yeah, and considering it was an experiment I'd say it turned out pretty awesome.

[Russ]

Meh, it's okay. But too many of Sonic's levels involve sections of just running down a curvy line, with no obstacles. Some though (like Lost World) rock. Tails' levels are all fun cuz you have to break the game with flying to win. Knuckles' were alright, but SA2 improved on them so much it's hard to rate them. Same with Omega. I liked Amy's levels alright. Big can go die in a whole. I'd give SA a 6 or a 7 overall. One of the worst 3D Sonics, but it has an excuse.

[Fabbrizio]

Meh, it's okay. But too many of Sonic's levels involve sections of just running down a curvy line, with no obstacles. Some though (like Lost World) rock. Tails' levels are all fun cuz you have to break the game with flying to win. Knuckles' were alright, but SA2 improved on them so much it's hard to rate them. Same with Omega. I liked Amy's levels alright. Big can go die in a whole. I'd give SA a 6 or a 7 overall. One of the worst 3D Sonics, but it has an excuse.

And NOTHING for Tikal's awesomeness?! Come on, story-wise it was pretty epic. And anyway:
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=E71YqXXQoUU
I DARE YOU not to get chills watching this video. Ever time I see it a wave of nostalgia kills me.

[Russ]

Yes, story wise, it was awesome. And yes, the intro was awesome. The game had a lot of awesome things going for it, but the gameplay (much of which was experimental) fell short sometimes.

[Banjo7J]

Meh, suit yourself, but it's good. Most of the Silver stages are pretty fun, and Shadow's are almost all good, with the exception of one bland stage and one that, admittedly, is garbage. But hey, the rest are good, at least.

Once again, suit yourself, but you're missing out.
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^ That ain't in Generations. Not to mention, the night stages are genuinely good.
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Oh, Shadow's stages were actually good? To me, they just looked like a bad version of Shadow the Hedgehog (which I am not saying is bad, but I mean the same sort of thing as that, except it's bad.). Although, I didn't really look around much to see what the character's levels were like. And, I know thatt level isn't in Generations, what I meant was if I wanted Unleashed day-style gameplay, I'd play Generations. If I actually had a reason to play my PS3 regularly, I would maybe give 06 a try. At the very least, play as all characters before ditching it.

[Fabbrizio]

Yes, story wise, it was awesome. And yes, the intro was awesome. The game had a lot of awesome things going for it, but the gameplay (much of which was experimental) fell short sometimes.

You're talking to someone who 9 times out of 10 won't even care about crappy gameplay and will judge a game solely on plot.

Edited by PowerGauntlets, 25 August 2011 - 04:08 PM.

[The Satellite]

I played Sonic Adventure 2 before I played Sonic Adventure, and so SA doesn't really hold any special place in my heart. In fact, probably the only thing I liked about Sonic Adventure was the hub worlds. Sonic Adventure 2 was pretty much better in every way. Sure, there's the whole "Tails on foot vs. in mech" debate, and I'll be quick to say I missed when Tails was actually useful without needing a mech or something.

*takes a glance at the Genesis games* ... I really miss it.

But all in all, Sonic Adventure 2 was just more engaging. And had less ear-grating voice acting (not from Sonic; he was solid in both games). The plot of Sonic Adventure 2 was darker, and, hell, Eggman actually succeeded with his plan. Ya know, before he discovered the wrench in the machine. That's why I love Sonic Adventure 2 so much. It could have ended the series if Sega wanted to. We know they wouldn't have, but hey, if they wanted to, they could have ended it there and it would have been a beautiful ending. I'm glad they didn't end it there, but still.

[Fabbrizio]

But all in all, Sonic Adventure 2 was just more engaging. And had less ear-grating voice acting (not from Sonic; he was solid in both games). The plot of Sonic Adventure 2 was darker, and, hell, Eggman actually succeeded with his plan. Ya know, before he discovered the wrench in the machine. That's why I love Sonic Adventure 2 so much. It could have ended the series if Sega wanted to. We know they wouldn't have, but hey, if they wanted to, they could have ended it there and it would have been a beautiful ending. I'm glad they didn't end it there, but still.

See, while Sonic Adventure 2 was definitely better, plot-wise, I was unable to appreciate it because before I was even close to beating the game someone spoiled for me not only that Shadow died but also that Shadow wasn't actually dead. That rather ruined the whole experience for me. Whereas with Sonic Adventure, the entire time I had no idea what was going to happen.

[The Satellite]

That's a fair reason to be upset. I hate spoilers too. I can't even remember my reaction when I first played and beat it. I didn't see that coming. I think I was pretty much in a state of disbelief, probably thinking "No way, he had to have survived that fall somehow!" I forgot how old I was, maybe 11 or 12. But still. Boy, was I glad that he came back in Heroes...